We thought a lighthearted episode in the middle of this dark-feeling time was in order for you ladies, so we’re talking personal upkeep with beauty editor and former Rookie staffer Marie Lodi, and the conversation is both wide-ranging and an utter delight. Do tune in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jenn and I are a bit all over the map in this week’s episode, chatting about everything from caffeine to microdosing to mid-life affairs, and so very much more. It’s all pretty fun, so do tune in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jenn and I were both deeply inspired by our guest, Grace Bonney, and her radical decency, honesty, and ability to pivot to new and potentially scary things with what certainly appears to be ease. Bonney created the popular blog Design Sponge, which at its peak had nearly two million visitors a day. Tune in to her talking about walking away from that, her newest book, Collective Wisdom: Lessons, Inspiration, and Advice from Women Over 50, why she is back in school, and so much more. If you’re feeling stuck or out of sorts about the new year and your role in it, do tune in because it’s a good one and it might just make you feel better. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.