My Everything is Fine partner Jenn and I worked at Lucky with Cat Marnell, who was both ridiculously talented and a ridiculous mess, struggling with a drug addiction that made those of us who cared about her very sad and extremely concerned. She wrote a fantastic, hilarious, and harrowing book about that time titled How to Murder Your Life that, among other things, perfectly captures both the hideous cycle of addiction and what it was like to work at Conde Nast in the aughts. Cat’s in good shape these days, I’m happy to report, and this conversation—in which we cover addiction and recovery, shame, lying, and so much more—is a really satisfying one. Listen in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. And, guys! We have a Patreon now: subscribe now and you’ll be entitled to bonus episodes, free EIF merch, shopping news, and so very much more.