This week on Everything is Fine

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Jenn and I are having a conversation about what it’s like to be hated, about learning to love your enemies, about forgiving our own younger sins, about tattoos and old friends but not tattoos as old friends, about the perfection of Pamela Adlon and her perfect show Better Things. Plus: AA adages! Boring tales from therapy! Jenn gets called a “psychopath!” Kim gets called the “biggest bitch I’ve ever met!” We accept these things and move on! Do listen in, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Rae
    22 Mar 2022
    8:30pm

    This was a magic episode. I laughed many times and had to rewind to catch IMPORTANT things that I had laughed through. What a treat that you allow us in on your friendship with Jenn. Thank you for making this podcast!

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    Liz
    22 Mar 2022
    9:53am

    I love the podcast! Please get Pamela Adlon on your show – it would be a perfect fit.

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      Kim France
      23 Mar 2022
      8:56am

      Oh how we’ve tried, Liz!

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    Remy
    21 Mar 2022
    4:43pm

    Thanks for another great episode! Hey, anyone know of a good book about body image over 40? So much to unpack around that and I liked hearing what you both (Jen and Kim) chose to share about it on this episode.

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    Tahe Z
    21 Mar 2022
    1:50pm

    Your gal pal chit chat is something I look forward to every week. Even when you’re both having a tough time, you still manage to make each other laugh and that is just so lovely. Thanks for sharing your friendship with your listeners.

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    Tanya
    21 Mar 2022
    1:55pm

    I was shocked by that comment last week, but you handled it with such grace. More than the OP deserved by typing such a comment, re-reading, and thinking that was an OK thing to post. I love the episodes when you two chat away!

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      Liz
      21 Mar 2022
      2:39pm

      I know! I could not believe that was something someone felt they should share. I hope you know that any woman reading that who has ever managed people knows that feedback like this is to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. I was a terrible boss, but my employees loved me simply because I was too timid to correct them and basically let them get away with things that hurt the business. I also witnessed many employees react terribly to great female bosses simply because they weren’t coddlers. And the one time I did discipline an employee she thought I was a huge bitch, but the reality was she was a terrible employee who’d been getting away with barely doing her job for 20 years.

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    Kristen
    21 Mar 2022
    1:55pm

    I will echo above! You two are delight. Even in the hard of life thank you for sharing with us. We are all less alone because of you.

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    Susan
    27 Mar 2022
    11:56pm

    I am sitting in San Francisco airport waiting for a flight home and listening to this episode. I just spent several days on a silent retreat to deal with crap from 40+ years ago, to forgive myself, forgive others, and ask forgiveness from people I don’t really want to get in touch with. This trip was in part inspired by you and some of your guests – you collectively helped me figure out a way to deal with my old garbage. I process by writing so I wrote a short note to each person I felt I had wronged, and still carried shame over, and I said to each that I am no longer that person. I wrote notes in which I forgave others. Then I took the notes, folded them up into tiny squares, and left them under a rock at the retreat location (nice view of the ocean!) – literally leaving that garbage behind me. Then I danced it out to get out of my head. 🙂 Thanks for your conversations, your guests, and for helping me see I’m not too crazy, or if I am we all are!! You guys rock.

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    Susan
    23 Mar 2022
    8:12am

    After listening to this episode-unlike many of us who suffer through relationships that have gone south and have to sit with our feelings-you have a VERY public forum to call out the other party. Curious, what you think about that. Just desserts? Do you think they listen?

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      jenn
      23 Mar 2022
      9:53am

      I guess I imagined that if you think someone’s a psychopath you don’t listen to their podcast but maybe this just bears out the point that I’m a psychopath.

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    Eloise
    22 Mar 2022
    8:30am

    Glad I was home alone while listening to this one as I couldn’t help but laugh along “with” you guys. I truly love how you make each other laugh – and how genuine it seems – even while discussing serious topics. Always such a great vibe.

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