It’s just me and Jenn on today’s episode, and we’re talking talk about coming to terms with what you really really want in mid-life, overcoming rejection, and the born-out-by-life-experience benefits of persistence. Plus, friendship as we get older, the (potential?) tricks to lasting love, and how to stop working with and for assholes — hopefully for good. Listen in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. And please do subscribe to our Patreon for lots of fun extra content. And also, I’m curious: how do you feel about the episodes in which we don’t have a guest? Please share your thoughts in the comments.
I love the episodes with just the two of you talking. I would also love to hear a friendship expert.
I like the way the two of you check in with each other at the beginning of the program and when y’all are discussing a particular subject I enjoy that as well. Sometimes guests can be a hit/miss situation, but so far I’ve gleamed something from every interview. Ergo, a mixture works great. Sometimes just the two of you, sometimes a guest, sometimes both options. I believe when you mix things up a bit it helps keep the podcast fresh.
I have enjoyed your guests, but I really do love when the two of you get real and talk about things. It is like being part of a conversation with friends. There are not a lot of places where there is authentic conversations between mature women about the the good, the bad and the ugly realities of life of a woman over a certain age. So many older woman in media are nearly perfect, and super skinny and beautiful. Not that you are not perfect and beautiful, you are real women.. 🙂
One of my favorite episodes was the one where it was just the two of you. You guys are super funny and real. I love how you are just very funny, interesting women shooting the shit instead of trying to be motivational speaker-types.
While I always enjoy your insightful guests, I especially love when you and Jenn talk—always pertinent, funny, relatable and REAL. Keep it coming
Mix it up! Please check in with each other – please – the discussion on Friendship during this podcast was so relatable and real. Do more on this subject – as friendships are so important as we get older / good for our health. I also love your guests – women who have been around and pushed through things to come out and tell the tale. The surfer, the badass book editor with a great job late in life, and the beauty and fashion people have been super interesting. I would love to hear from a plastic surgeon / have an episode on plastic surgery – I am curious about the mental motivation behind this – not to judge either way, but something that we are gripping with thinking about as we get older.
I think a mix of both (guests and you two) is perfect. I loved this episode, and really encourage you to do an episode on friendship. As an empty nester whose social life had been dominated by kid stuff, it’s a transitional period for me (maybe less so for my husband). Also friends are retiring and moving and it’s hard to maintain the same level of relationship when it’s not in person. Also sad to hear that Kim’s not publishing a book, as I was looking forward to buying and reading it! Loved the relationship talk too. I feel so fortunate to be together for almost 30 years with my husband. He’s always been a catch and makes me a better person, and he says he’s the lucky one. Also – want to hear more about social anxiety and drinking (raising my hand here!!).
Hands-down, I always prefer podcasts where we just get to hear the voices of the hosts. Honestly, I sometimes fast-forward through the interviews because I’m way more interested in what you (and Tally/now Jenn) have to say. Either way, I’m in!
This episode was my favorite EVER of your podcast. I found myself nodding along with so much that you two said. Loved the way you touched on midlife friendship, perseverance, and work in a totally organic and thoughtful way.
Same I actually prefer just the two of them
Haven’t listened to this one, yet, but I love the earlier episodes w/just the two of you.
Emerging from my hidey-hole to say that I LOVE the episodes with just the two of you. I mean the guests are great too, but I really enjoy hearing the two of you joking around and sharing your insights. I can’t even tell you how important it’s been to me during all of this Covid bullshit to have my experiences validated by you guys. Can’t get enough.
PS, Just nabbed that Vince cardi! Not like I need yet another buttony-sweater thing but whatever, it has stripes. That is all.
Frankly, guests should be the exception, not the rule. There are plenty of outlets (one might say too many) where one can hear interviews with newsmaker X or author Y; but few and far between are the places where one can listen to women of a certain age having a real, relatable conversation about topics of interest to us.
I’m relating very much to the discussion – I just sold my first book (coming out in July!) and I’m in my mid-forties. I even put “aging” right in the subtitle. This is after many false starts and near-misses and a LOT of persistence!!!
It’s great with guests and without! I have listened to every episode (some more than once) and love them all. My only gentle feedback is: sometimes I wish we heard your voice a little more, Kim! I think you should be setting the tone for the conversations. And I endorse the idea to have an episode about friendships – that discussion was super interesting.
Long time listener, first time commenter. Agree with the other comments I really enjoy when you both are just chatting, it’s so natural and you both are so insightful. Your guests have been really interesting and I often find myself jotting down quotes. I would love if you would talk more about books and what has resonated with you lately. I was fascinated to hear that Jenn was into reading old Hollywood actress biographies and I’m so curious where this came from. Same with you Kim what are your favorite books that are still meaningful to you or books that are more recent that have captured your heart? Thank You Thank You
I do remember one of Kim’s favorite works of fiction – Visit from the Goon Squad. I loved it also. Has anyone read Brighton Beach?
Love this episode so, so much! Really enjoy your and Jen’s conversational chemistry / flow, and truly appreciate every topic you cover. Also totally wish (though very grateful for the lifelong friendships I do have) that I knew friends who cursed as casually as I feel constrained to try *not* to when conversing with my actual friends (who are intelligent and kind, but straight-laced and conventional), and as you two do when needed! (-:
When I listened to the podcast I often had a difficult time distinguishing between the two speakers so sometimes (mistakenly)it seemed like one person was getting a lot more time than the other. Did anyone else have this problem?
Loved this episode. This was like going out for coffee with two girlfriends. I discovered your podcast two weeks ago when you and Jenn were guests on Goodbye Croptop and have practically listened to every episode since. So good! I would love for you to have Justine Bateman on as a guest. I recently watched a couple of interviews on YouTube she’s done to promote her latest book “Face” and her thoughts on ageing are so interesting and have really changed my thinking. Her interviews were with Tamron Hall and Time.
okay truth: I really REALLY like the podcasts when it’s just you and your cohost talking about a subject vs when you have a guest. There’s an ease and chemistry that works for me as a listener when you two are just talking and sharing your frustrations about the topic du jour. Although your guests are lovely, there’s been a few lately that have left me a little … meh. The chemistry isn’t clicking, the convo feels a little stilted, or even like you’re maybe disinterested? and it comes across sometimes as a bit stilted sometimes. I’d really love to listen to you and Jen R just riff on subjects that appeal to us all as we age, whether it’s you having a weird poop, or talking about beauty products (LOVE THESE!!) and inviting a friend to co-chat, or what it’s like dating in your 50s. I’m (personally) interested in the greater conversation and less in the interview format. Kim, you’re a literal goldmine of intrigue. I think there’s a lot more for you to explore. I’ll be listening!
YES, all of this. The straightforward, spontaneous talk about real life crap (literally and figuratively) is so refreshing. There are interviews I’ve really valued – the Stacy London one comes to mind, probably because it was more of the same real-talk vibe – but my favorites are almost always the ones with just the two of you. Having said that, I’d love for you guys to have Andrea on more often, maybe at season changes or something to talk about style stuff, but also just to chime in on whatever you all are on about at the moment.
I’ve listened to almost every episode and gleaned something useful (such as a nicer way of phrasing things) from each one, even from the few guests whose delivery turned me off — it’s good practice to “hear past” speech patterns and get the message, something I wish I’d mastered sooner in life. Anyhow, I enjoy listening to you and Jenn talk about what’s what. When you make each other laugh, it’s delightful. The discussion about friendships was comforting to me. Over the past few years, I haven’t outright ended any friendships, but I’m much pickier about how I spend time with people. I want to be physically active, not sitting in a restaurant or bar wondering if I’m drinking too much to drive home, worrying I might get caught. It may sound boring to avoid those situations, but that’s where I’m at. I just love that you’re doing whatever you want with this blog and the podcast, Kim. It doesn’t have to be formulaic. We all go through things that change us.