This week on Everything is Fine

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So this time around, Jenn’s in a foul mood, and I cheer her up with a rousing game of “would you rather?” Plus: creative process, identity loss, the mucky middle of life, how everyone can (and should) dress like a spectacle if they want, getting called “Ma’am”, monstrous female bosses, and the legend(s) of Tina Brown.  Tune in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. And please do join our Patreon for all sorts of excellent exclusive content.

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23 Thoughts on This week on Everything is Fine
    Jenn Romolni
    1 Nov 2021
    4:10pm

    That’s amazing that you feel like a badass! I sometimes do & did not the day we recorded this episode & I wonder if many of us have not-so-badass days weeks months at this stage & all stages of life.

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      JC
      2 Nov 2021
      10:19am

      Well, of course! Who feels like Superwoman every day? Goodness, it’s got to be OK to be vulnerable, to admit you don’t always have everything nailed down.

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    Lisa
    1 Nov 2021
    4:19pm

    I love that you guys keep it real (and honestly please only pay attention to the good comments). I read an excellent editorial in today’s Times titled “I just turned 60, but feel 22” https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/opinion/turning-60-aging.html (sorry if you hit the paywall). So so good. Although she does mention that 60 is the end of middle age? Whoa. I guess in a little over 2 .5 years I’m old? I’m keeping an eye out for the older ladies who are enjoying their lives. And when I go for a walk on the boardwalk, the older gentlemen will often greet me with “hello young lady”. Makes me smile. PS – I think you do a good job encompassing the many ages and stages of over 40. I will say that things changed significantly for me when the hormones really left the premises for good.

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      liz
      1 Nov 2021
      5:03pm

      Wikipedia says 65 is. I actually checked yesterday.

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    SC
    1 Nov 2021
    1:56pm

    I dunno – I’m 47 – I DO FEEL LIKE A BADASS. Not in a fake, rote, bumper sticker drive-by feminist way – but for real – I know who I am (and who I am not), I love my husband, my job, my friends, my crazy goofball awkward kids, I make the effort to find things that are still novel (I started playing tennis during the pandemic, I’m getting really good at it – something to be said for finding something new a little later in life and mastering it – it’s invigorating). So maybe it’s less about a blanket age- but how different individuals age. Because this episode started to feel a little… not relatable to me, who I am at 47. OK Yes I wish my boobs were a little higher – but also, if I really cared that much I’d go get a lift – otherwise, I’m good.

    Also the story of Kim’s mom and her friends at that little boy’s funeral – was moving. And beautiful.

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    Liz
    1 Nov 2021
    5:26pm

    For your movie club, you should watch Friends With Money. Nicole Holfcener’s middle aged female characters are the best, and who better to play them than Joan Cusack, Frances McDormand, and Catherine Keener? Lovely and Amazing is another great one.

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      Heather
      2 Nov 2021
      11:57am

      Enough Said is in my top 5 favorite films (also a Nicole Holofcener film).

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        liz
        3 Nov 2021
        9:54am

        Good film and with James Gandolfini.

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      Lisa
      1 Nov 2021
      7:51pm

      Loved Friends with Money, and would love to see Lovely and Amazing but it isn’t available anywhere to stream (hate what that says about smart movies about middle aged women)

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      Viajera
      1 Nov 2021
      8:19pm

      One of my favorite directors. I even want to see this Last Duel business (which she wrote, or co-wrote?), where normally I expect new movies to be too graphic. Need to check the reviews.

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        jax
        1 Nov 2021
        11:27pm

        Her movie, The Land of Steady Habits, isn’t about a woman lead but a male lead. Still very good and available on Netflix.

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      Jax
      1 Nov 2021
      11:24pm

      I love all of Holofcener’s movies — Walking & Talking, Lovely & Amazing, Enough Said. Great to run into other fans! I thought Please Give was a very funny, gimlet-eyed look at New Yorkers and class. Most of all, I love that Catherine Keener is her deserved muse.

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    Lori
    2 Nov 2021
    4:54am

    Love this episode so, so much — frankly wish I had friends like you two! Incidentally, before a sudden, apparently covid-induced (the actual virus, not quarantine) 30-pound weight gain this year (at 50), I didn’t really understand the appeal of boxy clothing; I generally preferred a slouchy, waist-cinched silhouette. But now, I wouldn’t be caught dead in anything unboxy! Please continue the generously-cut-clothing posts — there are tons of resources for those seeking tailored and fitted pieces … (-:

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    cw
    2 Nov 2021
    10:47am

    Such a good episode. Thank you two for being so honest and FUNNY and entertaining. Listening to your podcast is such a great way to start out the week. And a sidenote… My 40’s and 50’s were my best decades (so far)––got my graduate degree had some interesting jobs and loads of fun. My 60’s were overshadowed by a cancer diagnosis (cancer free now) and a difficult boyfriend. Super healthy now and happily single so fingers crossed for my 70’s! (plus, once you reach 70 you truly GNF’s and I mean that in a good way)

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      Kate
      2 Nov 2021
      10:56am

      Thanks for being such a lovely person, CW. You are always positive, insightful, and supportive whether you agree or disagree. I appreciate your presence on this and other online communities that I frequent.

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      Ramona Q
      2 Nov 2021
      7:28pm

      Oh I love this. Thank you for sharing your story. I started to panic a little after listening to this last episode (love the honesty of the podcast and the hosts. This panic is not a criticism of them and is all mine lol ) So it’s nice to hear there are still new things ahead and fun to be had. I’ll be holding that with me.

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    D.Morgendorffer
    2 Nov 2021
    12:12pm

    Apologies for being off-topic, but I wanted to make sure everyone saw my heartfelt gratitude. Happily, the surgery went well and he is out of the hospital. As ever, thank you for your kind words, Kimbersam and Viajera. Viajera, Kimbersam, CW, Mamavalveeta, Eloise, Mimi, Y.K., Mindy, Mouse, Gleaming the Cube, Heather, Jenny, Dana, the many other GOACA, and of course, the Presiding Kim Herself: on a weekly basis you all are the beam of sunlight and chirping birds in my window.

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      Viajera
      3 Nov 2021
      1:01pm

      Hurray, hurray!!!

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      Kim France
      2 Nov 2021
      4:50pm

      So glad to hear it, D. And cheers to this most supportive of communities!

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      Jenny
      2 Nov 2021
      12:34pm

      Thank you for the update, D. I think I speak for many when I say I treasure your contributions, your off-beat approach, your evident delight in many topics (especially perfume and lipstick because of course and that reminds me I’m missing both right now) and your gentleness in this space. Best wishes for a very boring and well-paced recovery.

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    Karin
    2 Nov 2021
    1:41pm

    Loved this episode! Jenn, as the kids say – “it gets better”! I believe perimenopause is like puberty backwards but with less information and support. Being on the other side, all of Kim’s sage advice was spot on. My therapist always says the first, best cure for depression is exercise. Find one small thing each day that brings you joy and do it. If you haven’t already, get checked out to make sure your hormone levels are OK; antidepressants can really help during this stage of life. Bonus: Once you’re done with menopause you can wear light-colored pants ANY TIME OF THE MONTH without fear!
    Looking forward to the midlife movie podcast!

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    Marianne
    2 Nov 2021
    2:02pm

    Love listening to this podcast. You are both so smart and wonderfully kind and thought provoking. Jen, it does get better and you start to appreciate old things in new ways. I am just trying to stay healthy and positive so when the awesome opportunity arises I will be ready! So take care of your sweet self.

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    Liz
    2 Nov 2021
    4:45pm

    Ugh, I definitely relate to Jen’s perimenopause issues, and this episode actually motivated me to make an OB/GYN appointment, because it’s been a while! A couple of summers ago I just had the craziest major depressive periods that only lasted 2-3 days, but came on super suddenly and went away just as fast. It was crazy. I actually felt like I was physically weighed down and unable to move, and I suddenly became really afraid to be left alone, and nothing like that had ever happened to me. I’m a generally happy person. When I mentioned it to my mom, she said “Oh yeah, I remember when I went through it and just felt like I didn’t care whether I lived or died.” I honestly didn’t realize your hormones could mess with you so badly. It was very scary. Luckily, that part of perimenopause seems to have gone for good (hopefully). Now I just have the fun of waking up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat a couple nights a month right around my period. Anyway, hopefully your mood swings won’t last too long and that your family is there for you!

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