It’s me and Jenn doing our one-on-one thing this week, and we cover many topics, including but not limited to: loving boring and uncool things like (for me) the band Chicago, and (for Jen) talking about spaghetti squash. Plus! Complicated sibling relationships, answering a listener’s question about shoes, the pleasures of watching shows about women over 40, laser treatments, Sandra Oh, podcasts we love and, weirdly, a whole lot more. Do tune in, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get podcasts. And do please join our Patreon! We’ve got another live event coming up soon—along with a lot of other cool stuff—and the more of you who are there the better by far.