Roe v. Wade open thread

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The news Monday about the Supreme Court’s plans to eviscerate Roe v. Wade was just so awful that I’m still processing it. I feel sad and angry, and utterly mystified as to how this became a country that—in 2022—could walk back a woman’s control over her own body so severely. I think this business is ugly and misogynistic, and needs to be fought, ferociously. I’m curious: How are you feeling about this news? Do you plan to mobilize, and if so, how? Also, check out this handy article about how to channel your righteous pro-choice rage.

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82 Thoughts on Roe v. Wade open thread
    Doyenne
    4 May 2022
    6:46pm

    I feel dejected. Scared for countless people. Their health. Their lives. The risks they’ll take to end an unwanted pregnancy or, alternatively, the lifelong toll of not being able to end one.
    Can I ask a sincere question of you very smart GoaCA? Beyond the garbage rhetoric of religious excuses and the abhorrent bigotry and misogyny of white men—don’t get me started on my fury at that $h1+—is there a fiscal angle to being anti-choice? It seems like so many of these rich old white boys make the majority of their decisions based on the almighty dollar and my limited imagination cannot fathom what they gain (monetarily) from forcing women to lifelong motherhood that ultimately costs society, as well? I don’t know if my question makes any sense, I’m just cynical as hell right now and yearn to compartmentalize it a bit with, “Oh, that’s why they’re doing this, greedy a$$ha+$.” (Sorry for my crassness, decorum has temporarily left the building.)
    Thanks for giving us this space, Kim. Now I’m off to have a cathartic angry-cry for a bit before I donate to abortionfunds.org. (I already donate to Noise for Now, they have great Pro-Roe merch.)

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      cw
      4 May 2022
      7:38pm

      I do understand, Doyenne––I actually thought about calling my dr today to see if I could get some medical marijuana to help combat my EXTREME RAGE which is no doubt raising my blood pressure by a zillion points. My understanding is the major financial donors for the GOP are anti-abortion (more to do with control and keeping minorities down than money they could make as a direct result). Those white male GOP donors will make money, but indirectly because whatever person they put in the Oval Office will do what they say––ergo, financial gains––both Ronald Regan and Trump are good examples of this manipulation (Bush The Younger as well, but 9/11 set things caddywhompers during his reign) . And if the GOP doesn’t put Trump up for reelection then I’d look at some other easily manipulated, but charismatic white male (JD Vance perhaps?) who will continue to gut civil rights to please those top donors and pass laws and gut taxes and limit things such as climate change regulations so those top donors can make even more money. It is my opinion that the Republicans are brilliant at playing the long game––Democrats are not. Heather Cox Richardson does a great job putting the history of GOP decisions together to show how they have manage to take such firm control of our government even though they are most assuredly in the minority. But I’m not a political scientist or even that well informed so take everything I say with a large grain of salt.

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        Doyenne
        4 May 2022
        9:46pm

        Thank you so much for replying to my question, cw. I really, truly appreciate it.
        Since I can’t comprehend this garbage fire I feel a moment of respite—Hey, hey, I must not be a monster! Bully for me!—but then I remember: Oh $h1+ we live in a land of monsters.
        Sorry to be a downer y’all. It’s just hard right now and I’ll try to be better. x

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        DeltaWell
        4 May 2022
        10:48pm

        100% this: more to do with control and keeping minorities down than money they could make as a direct result.

        If it really was about caring about what happens to children, they would stop gutting social services programs.

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          Shelly
          4 May 2022
          10:53pm

          So true. From what I’ve read, estimates are that overturning Roe will result in about a 4% reduction in abortions. If the motivation was about babies, the focus from the beginning would have been on services that would allow women, regardless of their circumstances, to give birth knowing they would be able to support themselves and their babies. This is about taking away a choice. It’s about control.

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      Dubs
      5 May 2022
      11:05am

      I do think it’s linked to money, indirectly, because none of these sleazeballs gives a flying f..k about the unborn. They get buckets of money in campaign donations from religious groups. And the most predictable measure of whether someone will actually vote is if they attend church- I learned this when I volunteered on a local campaign and our entire schedule was organized around church services.

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    Jennyg
    4 May 2022
    7:27pm

    Feeling so disheartened and sad for my beautiful daughters generation. I feel like I have left these girls down. She turns 17 in a few weeks. Donating $$ and planning to protest in Chicago. Thank you Kim for spotlighting this today.

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    D
    4 May 2022
    10:27pm

    Are there men in your lives upset by this? I’m struck by how many men I know are kindof shrugging this off. I had one say well what did we expect with this Supreme Court (which is insulting on so many levels I can’t count them all).

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    Wendela
    4 May 2022
    1:33pm

    I am enraged. Absolutely furious. I need to channel this energy into something productive. Thanks, all for the resources.

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    Tricia
    4 May 2022
    7:45pm

    I am enraged yet unfortunately not surprised…I just feel so negative about everything. I’m all for protesting, donating and voting but unfortunately I don’t feel hopeful. McConnell has been plotting this for decades and he succeeded. I don’t have children. I work with children as a speech pathologist . I have nieces and nephews. I hate to say this but I’m so relieved I don’t have kids. I’m scared for future generations. We live in a country where half the population is willing to vote against their own self interests. These are awful times.

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      mlinky
      5 May 2022
      3:31pm

      I have never been so happy that I don’t have children.

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    Papersitter
    4 May 2022
    1:10pm

    I’m unsurprised. The right has been playing this long game for decades. Trump’s election sped it up. I’m in such a negative headspace today as I see where we are headed and realizing that winning the last election has really done nothing. I’m lucky to be white, middle class and 60 – I’m going to die before this gets really awful.

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      DeeSea
      4 May 2022
      1:46pm

      I had the same thought: that I’ll die before this gets really awful. But I’m sure as hell gonna go out swinging. I’m going to throw as much as my money, time, sweat, and energy as I can toward this fight as I possibly can, for as long as I can. I think of the women who fought in the past for us (we owe them so much), and I want to do the same and pay it forward, even when it feels futile. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I did anything less.

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        Papersitter
        4 May 2022
        2:58pm

        I’m with you, and I should have made that clear in my own comment. RvW is just the latest assault on progress of any kind. Today’s feelings echo those on November 9, 2016 and I need to be an Eeyore before I get into the fight.

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          mlinky
          5 May 2022
          3:38pm

          I’m with you. It’s kind of reassuring to know that I’m not the only one who has thought, ‘at least I’ll be dead before the worst of it.’

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      Karin
      5 May 2022
      7:38pm

      Papersitter are you me? This is exactly how I feel. It doesn’t matter who’s “in charge,” it’s always the Republicans since they block everything that’s not them. They’re obviously taking the White House in 2024 (an 82-year-old Biden or a Black woman is not going to win, I’m sorry).
      I’m cycling between numbness and complete disbelief (hearing that Lousiana is moving to make abortion a homicide, which would also ban IUDs and morning-after pills…how is this happening)?
      I keep thinking, “Well, I’ve only got about 20 more years…then my child will be alone on this planet of fire, if it still exists.” Thankfully he is a boy. . .

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      Mouse
      6 May 2022
      8:18am

      Yes, the same. I’m 62, white, middle class, had an abortion in 1979. This is indeed a long long game and the genesis really is feminism. Does a woman count as a full human being with the right to make her own decisions and mistakes just as men do? Do the “rights” of a fetus supercede those of a fully born human woman? Does Christian theology–with all its attendant views of the place of women–rule our country now? Do we still have separation of church and state, which is what allowed women’s rights to happen ? And the cherry on top of it all, what makes my rage incandescent, is that McConnell and Trump really don’t care about abortion or women. They care about power and saw that the abortion issue was the way to get it, trampling on women all the way. Revolting creatures. There will be–if I believed in it–a special place in hell for them.

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    CC
    4 May 2022
    1:14pm

    I’m not sure if my comment didn’t post because it was offensive – if so, sorry, Kim.

    I don’t agree with the criticism of Sanders voters. I voted for Hillary in the general, like my husband, like 74.3% of primary supporters. We can go back to 2016, to 1979 (evangelical rerouting of focus from segregation to abortion), or any point in between (Alito lying about stare decisis in 2006, the same as done by Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and ACB between 11 and 15 years later; RGB not resigning in 2013 after hitting her middle 70s and surviving cancer, with Obama best enabled to make the appointment pass). We can also talk about trying to impeach the compromised Thomas, packing the court, and just: FIGHTING. We can fight as individual women (donating to abortion funds and scoping neighboring states with trigger laws set to fall on the heads of every girl and woman when this becomes official in June – to go to the states en masse to assist those desperately needing to end pregnancies).

    I have hope, but I am sad, mad, and extremely, extremely angry. Lysistrata isn’t going to work, because the women banging the cretins who support Alito’s opinion support it as whole-heartedly. And blaming a segment of Democratic voters is dishonest as f and doesn’t work either. Maybe we should galvanize behind Warren, who was madder than all fresh hell yesterday, and SAID, publicly, that Congress COULD act swiftly to enshrine protections.

    But what Liz W wants and what I want won’t happen unless those politicians at the highest levels who purport to want what we all want get out their g.d brass knuckles and fight as hard as Republicans have since the 1970s to get their way. Wielding power isn’t supposed to be nice. If Shakespeare got this, how is it taking those of us with the better set of ideas so fing long to get there too?

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      Viajera
      4 May 2022
      1:33pm

      Sorry to buttinsky – but I think, if you voted for HRC in the general, then I don’t think anyone’s mad at you? I think many of us are just upset at the Midwestern Dems who couldn’t be bothered. But I don’t think that that’s you. … … … I agree with you that Dems are often disorganized and distracted, yet, also we have to work with this electorate. And, it’s split. Anyhow, I don’t think this fight is lost. I think it will just be a lot harder. If they go after the right to vote though, well – I hope it won’t happen. I don’t think it will. But, I am less confident now. Anyhow, I love your fighting spirit!! It’s like a nice b12 shot.

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        CC
        4 May 2022
        3:55pm

        I think a lot of people have the conversation start, stop and end with Hillary not winning. I do. So I am trying to be honest about being fed the F up with that. And I still need B12 and to act on that fight and that hope…consistently. We can do this, can’t we??

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          Viajera
          4 May 2022
          9:50pm

          Well, that is kind of what happened though. It was the fact that the most recent previous president got to make those picks. The country was just as divided before, as I think we all knew. We were all just ignoring it. And it may stay that way for some time. … … … I am glad to have this chance to complain about “the conversation” though, bc I don’t agree that all the people on the other side are insincere. No doubt, some are. But many are not. They just have different values and priorities. And they must not believe in a right to privacy during those times when, to them, there is another person inside a woman. I am firmly pro-choice as to the law, but I admit, it really bugs me when, um, certain prominent Dems in my state go on and on and onnnnnn about how “extreme” the other side is, when they hardly ever mention contraception. I am *happy* to pay for birth control. (And it is weird to me that few people on either side seem to say much about it.) I am much less happy about having to pay for abortions. Maybe some day there will be medical advances and there will be fewer of them. I hope so. (Well, I mean, fewer because women don’t need them – not fewer because we have put all the women in jail!) I think the way we talk about things is really important. Right now there are probably people on a different site talking about how our side is all “babykillers” and so on. … … … Having said all that, just to reiterate – I believe women have a right to medical privacy including reproduction. And I think it is already in the Constitution. And I do really wonder, are those 5 aware of it? I guess what I’m saying is, I don’t think I *am* a cynic. Entirely. But, we do need to get the money people to stop voting with the theocrats, somehow.

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            y.k.
            5 May 2022
            7:29pm

            this might be the most important thing i remember from law school :
            Right to privacy/ right to have an abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution. A case from the 60s (Griswold v. CT) establishes this right . There are many cases that “emanate” from the right to privacy, including the right to contraception, to choose to have an abortion etc. The Supreme Court justices are well aware of stare decisis- the importance of respecting well settled case law (of 50 years no less!) – but Alito has the backing of the other conservative justices .

            i was shocked that this happened as quickly as it did, and I agree w/ what someone else wrote- that things in general seem to be going down the tubes. RBG did so many great things, but she refused to step down back in those halcyon Obama years , that would have helped enormously. And that Amy Coney Barrett is so young, she’ll live forever.

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              Viajera
              6 May 2022
              12:30pm

              I agree – privacy is in the Constitution, but not explicitly. (Like voting.) It was clearly intended and assumed though, on the part of those who wrote and signed it, imo. (Historically though I think the Griswold line might have been based on a slightly different line? – I don’t remember exactly.) I do think these 5 are reaching, to be able to do this. They are making a legal error. (And that means that later, their error can get fixed too.) Well, more than one really. … … … Also, I think we shouldn’t assume too much about how long this balance will last. Things often turn out differently than we expect.

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            TK
            8 May 2022
            12:31pm

            Jumping in a few days late as I could not bring myself to produce words. Whatever the feeling is that is beyond rage is where I’ve lived for the past few days.

            I agree with the sentiments of most here, however there is one point that RBG and others have made which is crucial: the constitution doesn’t grant an express right to privacy, and this is where the foundation of RvW was flawed. The choice of abortion is and should be rooted in equality, which we as women still do not have. If RvW was rooted in equality, Alito would not have had the grounds to punt this so easily. I suppose in Alito’s Handmaid’s-Tale-fever-dreams-view of history as a guide that the civil rights act should be reversed as well since there is no mention race (or gender) in the definition personhood . Anyone quoting fourteenth-century writings as a precedent or evidence for modern society is delusional.

            I’m going to fight like hell. I have a 20 year-old bi-sexual daughter and this momma bear is out of f**ks to give.

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      Tricia
      5 May 2022
      1:38am

      No offense but it’s too analytical and this is exactly how we shoot ourselves in the foot. I know this will be an unpopular reply.

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    Helene
    4 May 2022
    2:54pm

    It sickens me that this country is so full of misogynists. The government has no business governing women’s bodies. It really does feel like Handmaid’s Tale. F*ck the former president, repulsive narcissistic, misogynistic, homophobic, racist (did I miss anything?). This is all so infuriating and depressing.

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      mlinky
      5 May 2022
      3:43pm

      Add a general ‘Fuck Putin’ too

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      Mouse
      6 May 2022
      8:21am

      Bt most of all, Fuck McConnell. Trump is a useful idiot in his game.

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    lisa
    4 May 2022
    12:42pm

    Thanks for all the resources listed. I will march, write, call, donate and whatever else is necessary. I saw this writing on the wall the night RBG died. My mother was a nurse in the 50’s and I grew up hearing her stories of treating women who had back alley abortions. She was a lifelong supporter of Planned Parenthood, and my first action yesterday was to donate. What a load of hypocrisy for these people to call themselves pro life. I am sick to my stomach, and I have three daughters. What is their world turning into?

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    Alexa
    4 May 2022
    12:00pm

    I feel blindsided by this. Obviously I shouldn’t have been.
    Thank you for giving us constructive ways to channel the anger and disbelief.

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    Cathy
    4 May 2022
    12:16pm

    Another Texan here. Everyone told me I was over-reacting in 2000 when the Supreme Court stole that election. This has been their plan all along. I, too, fear that they will use this decision to go after contraception, gay marriage, and whatever else they can. In fact, when Roe falls, IUDs will be illegal in some states. I don’t know about y’all but the rage I feel is overwhelming at times.

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      Ramona Q
      4 May 2022
      1:28pm

      Completely agree with all of this. Am angry but find it harder to tap into as also incredibly overwhelmed.

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    lola
    4 May 2022
    12:21pm

    This is devastating and sadly, only the beginning. I’m actually having a hard time wrapping my head around this news. It feels like one of those terrible, impactful days when you get the type of news where you will never forget where you were and how you were feeling when you got it.

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    The Prof
    6 May 2022
    5:16pm

    “Double” your vote. The court has sent it back to the states, so we need to swing governors and legislatures. Young people turned out at 38% in the last midterm — and that was a super record; usually it’s in the 20%s. (Over 65s — who skew Repub — turnout at the 65% level in midterms.) So: every one must register one young person who has never voted in a midterm this summer. And this fall, take the steps to ensure they actually vote. We can do this via the ballot box, if we all take the time and energy to double our vote.

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    Gablesgirl
    5 May 2022
    8:03pm

    I see a lot of “old white man’s club” here. I think it’s more the religious right scary the crap out of old men that they will only get elected if they support their causes. In case you didn’t know Prescott Bush, progenitor of the Bush clan, was on the original Board of Planned Parenthood.

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    NF
    5 May 2022
    9:08pm

    Those of you who are lawyers, or who are just (masochistically?) interested in the legal thinking in Alito’s draft opinion, may want to check out this essay by Harvard Law professor Jeannie Suk Gersen, published May 4 in NewYorker.com: https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-an-unprecedented-supreme-court-leak-says-about-the-future-of-abortion-and-about-precedent-itself

    This is the sentence that chilled me: “[A]n eventual finding of a constitutional right to fetal life would disallow abortion in every state.”

    I’d like to point out something that Gersen does not: that Judaism, for one, does not recognize conception as the beginning of life. (Nor, I think, does Islam.) For Jews, life begins when the infant draws its first independent breath. Prepare (I hope) for some 1A freedom-of-religion challenges.

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      Ellie
      6 May 2022
      8:37am

      You don’t even need a constitutional right to fetal life. You just need the GQP back in power in DC to pass a federal ban, and now there’s no constitutional backstop against it.

      And my understanding is that most strands of Islam accept or even require abortion in at least some circumstances. But I have little hope for those 1A challenges, because the Christofascists will simply revise their whining about the “Judeo-Christian” founding to “Christian founding.” They don’t give a flying f*** about good faith, logically consistent arguments. It’s results only.

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    Mimi A
    4 May 2022
    12:27pm

    I am furious, sad and frightened about all the other rights that could be taken away. I will give more money to Planned Parenthood, and appreciate the other suggestions in this thread. I plan to investigate whether I can volunteer to drive women from my red state to a neighboring state where they can get help. When I was 24 and at the end of a brief starter marriage I discovered I was pregnant. I flew to New York, one of the few states where abortions were legal. Three years later and remarried I had an ectopic pregnancy and learned I wouldn’t be able to have children. Some would consider my story an abortion nightmare. I don’t, and I want every woman to have the choice I was able to make.

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    Lesley
    4 May 2022
    9:26am

    Thank you for this. It was like a blow to the system yesterday, and I did go to a rally, even though I can count the number of rallies I’ve been to in my life on one hand. But it does leave me frustrated, as some of the directives mentioned at the rally don’t (in my view) solve the problem. (Abolish the filibuster? Are we pretending that Republicans won’t be in control ever again?) Sigh. I can council my daughters to settle in a woman-friendly state, but it sure doesn’t help all the women whose life circumstances have them living elsewhere.

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      Lesley
      4 May 2022
      9:27am

      whoops, *counsel*

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      lolaindc
      4 May 2022
      10:18am

      Furious, heart broken and disgusted. For all the Dems that “didn’t like Hilary” and didn’t vote, shame on you. Look at what’s happened to our country. I live in DC and the entire city was depressed during the Trump presidency. We are living through this bs first hand. The scary, overly forceful police presence during the BLM rallies. The insurrection. The truckers. The lies. All I can think about is if he runs again, if he wins and what other rights we’ll lose that we thought were a given.

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        Mouse
        4 May 2022
        12:34pm

        She was completely right too about “the vast right-wing conspiracy” too. Otherwise known, among others, as The Federalist Society, which has given us our current moment.

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        Kcat
        4 May 2022
        10:37am

        Exactly. This is on everyone who didn’t vote for Hilary. I’m so angry that she was accused of fear-mongering during her campaign by other liberals when she brought up this very event. You voted for Bernie or couldn’t bring yourself to vote for Hilary because she was too establishment for you? Look what you’ve wrought.

        And it’s only going to get worse. Thank god for for my Irish citizenship. I can leave this nightmare if DeSantis gets into office and becomes a more effective Trump.

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          Ellie
          6 May 2022
          8:42am

          I was knocking doors in Iowa, and it was Jill Stein that I heard about over and over again. Many had supported Bernie in the primary, but if Stein had sat her a$$ down, enough of them would have come out to vote against Trump to make the difference.

          Thinking over and over again about 2016 is so exhausting, but it’s also so hard not to see it as a sign of the political stupidity of America. Especially on the left. If Dems aren’t progressive enough for you, then do a Tea Party! Do a Q-Anon! Take over the damn house, don’t shove it over the cliff out of spite/vanity/self-indulgence. We don’t have a multi-party parliamentary system where you get to vote third party with some hope of moving the middle. And the evidence is right there in front of our eyes, because the far right has done the smart thing and just taken over the middle.

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    lornag
    4 May 2022
    9:31am

    It is gutting to realized my 12 year old could have fewer rights than their grandmother. It isn’t surprising, but it’s awful.

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    cw
    4 May 2022
    9:50am

    NPR put out an informative column on the conservative Supreme Court justices and what they said about Roe v Wade in their confirmation hearings: https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096108319/roe-v-wade-alito-conservative-justices-confirmation-hearings
    Also, Heather Cox Richardson in her sub stack column gives really good current and background information on how dismantling Roe v Wade will impact other civil rights (both today and yesterday’s columns)
    And, because I am not a glass-half-full kind of person––I imagine if we get Trump again or another GOP president then the older conservative Supreme Court justices will retire (thinking of Clarence Thomas in particular) so the new GOP President can appoint even more radically conservative justices.
    What do I plan to do? Donating more $$ to the female Democrats running tough races (Stacy Abrams and Val Demings come immediately to mind––I would love for Demings to smash Baby Rubio’s face into the Floridan muck) and more $ to Beto.

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      nadine
      4 May 2022
      10:43am

      thank you Kim for opening to this, and thank you cw. I live in Canada and i’m furious.

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      Jane
      4 May 2022
      4:24pm

      Thank you cw for reminding me to support Democrats like Stacy Abrams and Val Demings. I live on the west coast and it’s sometimes hard to know what to do when you live in a solidly blue state. If only we could get rid of Rubio, DeSantis, and the rest. I’ve felt the weight of all this the past two days and feel so ineffectual.

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    Paula
    5 May 2022
    6:08pm

    Grassroots organizing gives me hope in these dark times. Please consider funding Movement Voter Project also. MVP is funding the fight to codify reproductive rights at every level of government. It all comes down to this:
    We need to organize, advocate, and legislate at the state and national levels.
    We need to keep the presidency and elect more progressive Senators, and the best way to do that is to fund grassroots organizing in battleground states & districts.
    Here are the 66 groups MVP is funding that are explicitly working on reproductive rights:
    https://movement.vote/groups/?issueAreas=Reproductive%20Justice

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    Caroline
    9 May 2022
    8:43am

    I’m not sure I can add anything new to this thread.
    But yes I am furious, saddened and frankly disgusted.
    I felt heartened that my 17 year old daughter invited me to march with her in protest on sat. But so so furious that it’s necessary.
    Living in Virginia you can’t spit without hitting a polite woman who is “ socially liberal and fiscally conservative”.
    Basically they haven’t cared much and vote with there wallet. Fingers crossed that this will be a wake-up call.

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    LeighTX
    4 May 2022
    10:38am

    *waves from Texas*
    I’m heavily involved in voter registration and education (League of Women Voters, join today!) and I suspect we will be very busy over the next few months. This will definitely be a good talking point when we go to colleges and high schools to register young voters.

    But living in a state where so many see this as a victory is HARD. My younger daughter is the leader of a college campus women’s ministry group and after hearing the news, she immediately sent a long, fact-filled message to her group that basically said “all lives matter.” She wanted to make sure none of them started posting party memes on social media like several did when Texas passed its most recent draconian legislation. My favorite part of her message was, “Be mindful of the reasons abortion exists. This news is not a celebration. There are so many things this country needs to fix if we claim to advocate for life.” I guess all my rants about the need for comprehensive sex ed, access to free birth control, and justice for rapists really were heard…

    My fear matches that of so many others: that conservatives will use this to dismantle other rights like gay marriage, access to contraception, etc., and we need to be on guard. The pro-life community teaches that IUDs are an abortifacient, so be prepared for those to become hard to access. (My older daughter got one last year, just in case.) Make sure you and your gyno are on the same page about these things; you don’t want to be surprised by her refusal if you need help quickly. I don’t know if we will be able to change things immediately, but we can at least lay the groundwork and set an example for future fights like our mothers did for us.

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      Midwesterner
      4 May 2022
      12:52pm

      I just joined our local chapter of the League of Women Voters, thanks for the nudge. My mom was an active member and I’m getting involved in her memory.

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        Emily
        4 May 2022
        2:40pm

        I am in Missouri, and I donate to Dems in out of state senate / house races because I have learned over many years that donating in MO is like lighting money on fire.

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      Mamavalveeta03
      4 May 2022
      11:16am

      And it’s not an irrational fear that SCOTUS will come for marriage equality and contraception! Alito said as much in the leaked draft! We’ve got to get out there “in numbers too big too ignore.”

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    H
    4 May 2022
    10:23am

    Hello from England. I am devastated for you, dear American sisters. This would be an appalling act of control over women and a dreadful step backwards. I really hope it doesn’t come to pass.

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    cw
    4 May 2022
    10:39am

    Julia Louis-Dreyfus is matching $10k in donations if you donate to: @secure.actblue.com so you can make your money go farther.

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    Joan
    4 May 2022
    10:42am

    I am so sick about these, in fact I am enraged. I did not sleep last night from the upsetting news. Everything, everything we worked so hard and long for in the 70’s was wiped out in 4 years. I just knew this would happen when Trump pushed those Judges through. Can someone start a list of candidates we can support and donate to?

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    Jenny
    5 May 2022
    7:29am

    I was honestly surprised at how I felt to read the news – devastated and tears of disappointment and rage. I knew it might be coming, but now that it is I am gutted. I am 51 and have never had an abortion- though recently needed a plan b pill because I can still get pregnant. I did find my self single and pregnant at 25. I was lucky that my now husband and I were able to have the choice to move forward with our family on an unexpected timeline, but it wasn’t easy. We also explored having an abortion, and at the time, and to this day, I am so grateful I had that option. With this SC draft, I see the value of human rights in the US in a whole new way now, and I see that the country I grew up in wasn’t what I thought it was (I’ve be learning that since spring of 2020 unfortunately) and will fundamentally change in devastating ways that I just don’t know how I will live with.

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    Tricia
    4 May 2022
    11:09pm

    Adding to my comment. I’m 55. Consider myself pretty liberal. Vote democrat. I will get a slew of negative replies for this, but the democrats stink. As per an earlier comment, no long game. No strategy. They can’t pass anything because they get in their own way. I’m not discounting how awful the GOP is. Strategize and take little wins and build on them. I’ll continue to vote for them but as I said earlier, Mitch McConnell achieved his long game

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      Karin
      5 May 2022
      7:43pm

      Tricia, I gotta agree with you…Democrats can’t message their way out of a paper bag. 90% of the things they want are things that the majority of voters want, but somehow they can’t convey that simple fact. They need to hire some Republican speechwriters/marketers who know how to sell stuff, and stop dithering.

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      KL
      5 May 2022
      7:18pm

      One wonders, what is our elected representatives’ long game?

      Why wasn’t Roe v Wade codified into law during Obama when the Democrats had the super majority? Here’s a cynical theory: Keep the threat of it being overturned as a bargaining chip, and a way to persuade the electorate to keep believing, “We must send more money to Democrats!”

      For how long do we keep supporting politicians who then do absolutely nothing when they are elected? We’ve had a Democratic president and majority in congress for two years — But we still can not get anything accomplished for the Democratic voter? All we hear from Democrats is, “At least we’re not as bad as *the other side* — If you don’t want them, send us more money!”

      I agree with posts here about money being the root of all evil… I can’t articulate how to solve it yet – but no way am I sending any more money to politicians.

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    Joannawnyc
    4 May 2022
    11:31am

    There’s this: https://www.mothersdaystrike.com/

    My husband said it doesn’t matter if middle-class women strike, but honestly, middle-class women are a HUGE constituency. Perfect is the enemy of good!

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    Mamavalveeta03
    4 May 2022
    11:21am

    I’m going to be writing Postcards to Swing States again, and encouraging people to vote. I’m on the steering committee for the “Andromeda’s Sisters Arts & Advocacy Gala” in East Hampton this June where we are focusing on Women’s Health. In particular, “How do we create a
    community of belonging through advocating for healthcare accessibility for women?” Couldn’t be more timely.

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    Stephanie
    5 May 2022
    2:59pm

    Please, everyone who wants to help the cause: donate to Dem candidates running for state legislatures. Since it’s up to the states now (or soon), we need to keep / turn as many as we can blue!

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    Lori
    9 May 2022
    2:10am

    Absolutely reeling in fury and disbelief. As others have noted, this is the first time in an entire 51-year life — during which I always wished to have a family, and have lately been trying to cope with the grief of never having that opportunity — that I might be glad I don’t have children. Because holy f****** christ, the political, social, medical, and climate hell that every young person will need to navigate from here out is mind-bending!

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    Gemma
    4 May 2022
    11:54am

    I’m 47 years old, white, heterosexual, and have been sexually active for 30 years. I’m very pro-choice, and I’ve never had an abortion. I’ve been thinking a lot in the last few months about all the privilege and luck that is needed to never have an unplanned pregnancy. I grew up in a family where sex wasn’t shamed. I had proper sex education at home and at Planned Parenthood (definitely not as high school where 1 in 15 girls got pregnant my freshman year) when I was a tween and a teen. I’ve always had health insurance and, during college, free condoms. I’ve had partners who’ve been willing to use condoms. I’ve never had a birth control failure. I can and do take hormonal birth control. I’ve never been raped. Certainly a large swath of women are not nearly as privileged or as lucky as I have been and I want all women to have the safety net of abortion.

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    Karen
    4 May 2022
    5:37pm

    Abortion access funds have preparing for this very situation for a very long time and can do a lot more with our money than Planned Parenthood, NARAL, the Democratic party, etc. National Network of Abortion Funds: abortionfunds.org

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    Lisa
    4 May 2022
    4:26pm

    Your sisters in Canada are here for you, and living in fear of what happens next.

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      mlinky
      5 May 2022
      3:52pm

      Can I crash on your couch? j/k In all seriousness, I’m half wanting to fight, and half wanting to leave the country.

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    C.D.
    4 May 2022
    2:21pm

    It’s not really about abortion. If the goal was really to reduce abortions, there would be easy access to contraception and sex education. If it really was about supporting life, then there would be support and affordable access for families seeking health care and child care, as well as paid maternity/paternity leave . What it’s really about is restricting sex and punishing women who get pregnant and have children in a society that pays lip service to supporting families, but little else.

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      Mamavalveeta03
      4 May 2022
      7:37pm

      I think you’re right on the money, C.D. It’s all about controlling women and keeping us in our place so that the old white boys club can go back to “the good ol’ days of 1954.”

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    Dana D
    4 May 2022
    3:08pm

    I feel more numb than anything else. As many have suggested, this has been years in the making. To help myself cope emotionally with the reality that our country is “run” by racist and misogynist (mostly) men, I accept that we are in a period of dismantling and that the re-building will take years and years and years. Whatever we (like-minded folks here) believed our democratic experiment of a country meant (for us), it has failed. (We hoped we were special, turns out we are not.). Nothing to do now but build it again.

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    Michelle
    4 May 2022
    3:07pm

    It’s further confirmation (as if we needed any) that the US loves guns and hates women

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    Shelly
    4 May 2022
    2:56pm

    An excellent discussion of what this means going forward in the NYT:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/opinion/reproductive-rights-roe-the-argument.html
    The (absolutely terrifying) bottom line is that the endgame for the antichoice movement is a nationwide abortion ban.
    And of course an end to LGBTQ rights and laws that protect anyone who is not a white male from discrimination.

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    Viajera
    4 May 2022
    12:45pm

    It won’t help, but it sounds as if Kavanaugh lied to Collins, and he should be impeached and removed from the bench. (I thought that before, just on the basis of having lied. And yes, I know it is unlikely.) It sounds like others also lied by implication. If they have any grace, they should feel ashamed of it (though, again, that won’t actually help). In addition to being upset and angry, I am mildly curious about whether these 5 actually believe there is no right to privacy in the Constitution. To me it is clearly there in the rights against search. But, whatever. People see what they want to see. Times like this are bound to happen when you have human judges. They will make errors. I still prefer people to a computer making decisions. This is a tough time but we will get through it. Thank goodness we have more resources and means of organizing now. It would be great if we could get to a place where there is more access to healthcare and contraception.

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    D
    4 May 2022
    11:35am

    Something that gives me hope is how livid so many younger women are about this development. It’s one thing to be denied a right you want but don’t have. It’s another to have a right — and then have it taken away. Lots of good suggestions on this thread and from other sources on how to make our joint voices into a yell of righteous fury that cannot be ignored and denied.

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      Viajera
      4 May 2022
      12:48pm

      The anger is good, but they need to do an actual P strike. I’m not kidding. Cut them all off from access until this problem gets fixed. It is past time.

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        Joannawnyc
        4 May 2022
        1:24pm

        Lysistrata! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata

        Aristophanes understood the assignment

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          Mary
          5 May 2022
          12:11pm

          The only explanation for this reversal is that the Republicans are bound and determined to increase the population of people who are impoverished and desperate. They will fight our wars, work in poultry plants, clean our toilets, and will be deprived of inalienable rights – to vote, to protest and will keep their heads down to survive. Those with money will continue to access these services and will not be ostracized.

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          Viajera
          4 May 2022
          3:55pm

          Yes! I think it’s worth a try. Of course it won’t work on the anti-choice people, but, this whole “i’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative” thing needs to get shut down now. No access for those men until this is fixed. Period. If enough of us actually did it, it would work. Indeed, it could not fail. There is no good substitute (yet). ; )

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