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Today we welcome Marisa Meltzer to the podcast. She’s author of the recently released book This is Big: How the Founder of Weight Watchers Changed the World—and Me, which is both a biography of Weight Watchers founder Jean Nidetch and a chronicle of Meltzer’s own lifelong battle with her weight. It was a pretty fascinating conversation, so do check it out on Apple Podcasts, Spotifty, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Your Loving Aunt Mae
    24 Jun 2020
    6:50pm

    The multi-billion dollar weight loss industry is out to get you, ladies. It has done more damage to the human psyche than anything else in human history. It has created eating disorders, which saps your strength for more progressive endeavors. Tracking everything you eat is maddening — men almost never do this bullshit. I swear, it’s a conspiracy to keep women down. If Oprah, for example, wasn’t so obsessed with losing weight, she’d be running for President and the world would be a better place. Rise above this trap, my sisters. You’re way more than how you look and we need to change things RIGHT NOW.

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      MARGARET
      25 Jun 2020
      7:44am

      I would’t want her as president because Oprah’s relationship with WW is what finally made me realize Oprah is full of crap. A personal struggle with weight is one thing, but to buy into the company and use your image to get more people to spend money on a fruitless (OH wait WW allows you to eat a WHOLE, not half, banana now! fruit-FILLED!) quest to make yourself smaller is just reprehensible. And despite her initial weight loss, like just about everyone who has paid into the WW scam, she has gained the weight back. It’s obvious that it doesn’t work.

      In other news, I saw that there’s a four-month wait for Marisa’s book at my library, and even though I don’t have money to spend on books these days, I bought it anyway. I consider it an investment, like therapy. This was such a good podcast, Kim and Tally! Thank you!

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    Mimi A.
    23 Jun 2020
    8:37pm

    I’ve long believed that from adolescence on every woman I know has lived with some kind of subclinical eating disorder, conditions that are kind of analogous to walking pneumonia. I maintain my weight by practicing what I call eternal vigilance. So during the first few minutes of the podcast, when both those ideas were expressed, I wondered how y’all had read my thoughts. Good episode, and I think you could do more on this topic. Cause it isn’t settled, is it? I wonder when I will stop caring about my size and shape. When I’m 80? 90? 103?

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    Liz
    25 Jun 2020
    5:40pm

    I’d always actually had a really healthy attitude toward my diet and weight until I hit my 40s because until then if I decided I wanted to lose weight I knew what to do and it consistently worked pretty quickly. Now, I do everything they tell you to do, including the 1200 calorie per day diet, filling most of my plate with veggies, and working out at least 30 minutes a day, and the scale does not budge. I can tone up, but can’t seem to drop a single pound, which leads me to obsess over it. I don’t get it, especially when you’d expect a person who goes from drinking alcohol and eating pasta and pot roast regularly to going sober, eating healthy chicken breast and broccoli and all of that to see some dramatic loss. I mean, I lost 5lbs at first, but then nothing.

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    Claire
    25 Jun 2020
    4:30pm

    Thank you for this. It resonated. So much. All of it.

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    Teresa
    24 Jun 2020
    8:33pm

    As someone who sports a stubborn, middle-aged belly bulge, I had to laugh at Marisa’s comment: “I don’t understand how someone can be a size 16 and have a flat stomach.”
    It is truly a mystery.

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    FizzyBlonde
    23 Jun 2020
    7:25pm

    I loved this podcast. I don’t know a woman who doesn’t have a fraught relationship with her body and food, whether she admits it – even to herself – or not. Everything Marisa said resonated with me. Gonna have to buy this book! Thank you.

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    Kim France
    23 Jun 2020
    7:26pm

    Yeah, we had a glitch. Sorry about that. It’s been fixed.

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      Susan Miller-Josselyn
      24 Jun 2020
      1:04pm

      I could have listened to three hours of this interview. I often wonder if I will ever be able to accept my own body in the way I applaud other women in all their many shapes.
      Also: Kim, your laugh is the best.
      xo

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        kimbersam
        24 Jun 2020
        7:01pm

        Same. Same. I threw out my scale years ago but still am critical via the mirror and worried over the way my pants are fitting. Every.Single.Damn.Day.

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        Carrie P.
        25 Jun 2020
        1:04am

        I totally agree about Kim’s laugh. It’s fantastic. And I keep thinking that I should comment on it so thanks for raising it!

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    kathy
    24 Jun 2020
    2:24pm

    Kim, I loved this podcast, and honestly I’ve loved all of them! I’m so happy when you post on this blog that there is a new podcast in the queue. I do have one request though- please make them longer!! I could listen to these all day, and would love if your pod casts were 60 minutes:) Keep them coming please!!

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      Rebecca B.
      25 Jun 2020
      10:25am

      I hate to be the voice of dissent but I actually love that this podcast is tight and snappy. Too many seem to not know about editing and I’m sorry, how can a podcast go for 1.5+ hours? Just a vote for staying as is!

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    Suju
    23 Jun 2020
    5:59pm

    Really good podcast episode. FYI, when I listened. towards the end, Tally’s audio overlapped yours and the guests. And then the podcast continued, and then when we got to the end Tally’s audio was gone. Maybe you guys already figured it out and fixed it. Just wanted to let you know in case you hadn’t.

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    Erin
    26 Jun 2020
    3:56pm

    This was the first episode I’d listened to, and as a woman in her 40s I was excited to hear your take on this issue. However it was disheartening to hear the hosts say things like, “I maybe weighed 5 pounds more than I should have” or “I don’t have a weight problem but I think about calories when I eat” or “I’m a slim person, but…” comments that reinforce the negative talk and judgement around being “over” weight. You touched on body positivity in the episode and I would have loved to hear more discussion there, especially about the responsibility that media and fashion have in helping push that idea forward. And it is possible to have a flat stomach and be a size 16 – people carry weight differently so I’m not sure that comment was necessary. It’s so hard to accept ourselves in the bodies we have (especially after 40) without having to do strenuous exercises to mentally overcome the cultural negativity we’ve processed our whole lives.
    Thanks for keeping the conversation going, I look forward to hearing more episodes!

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    Francine
    26 Jun 2020
    2:48pm

    As always, I so enjoy your and Tally’s rapport. Agree that this was a great topic. As someone who struggled with an over-exercise disorder in my 20’s-30’s, this resonated. But…I was so distracted by your guest’s overuse of the word “like”, that I could not focus! I started counting but lost track. I finally turned it off (I’m sorry!) It was difficult to take her seriously in all honesty. The topic with right-on though and would love for you both to tackle it again.

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    Amelia N.
    26 Jun 2020
    1:34pm

    Loved this episode! Would enjoy hearing more on this topic. I’m now 60, but moving to Italy for a job in my 30’s really flipped the script for me. Living for years in a culture that didn’t conflate eating/drinking with guilt/anxiety was very liberating. It wasn’t a concrete set of eating habits, but it was a massive attitude adjustment. I found it much easier to have a healthy relationship with food there. The concept of intuitive eating seems helpful, but it’s a tough one to process, living in a culture that is constantly bombarding women with messages that there is a naughty/nice list for all food and drink, and that women, in particular, can’t trust themselves around food, period. I still have friends who say, “I’ve been so bad,” after they’ve eaten certain foods. Never once heard a man say that. I agree wholeheartedly with your guest that the whole “wellness,” trend is just another way to capitalize on the collective anxiety and guilt around food, giving us the illusion that we can keep everything under control all the time if only we eat and drink the “right,” things.

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