I love this week’s podcast episode

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We’ve got my old Oberlin classmate, the brilliant Claire Dederer on this week—she is the author of the badass coming-of-middle-age memoir Love and Trouble: A Midlife Reckoning as well as an upcoming book on coming to terms with the art of bad men. The conversation is pretty wide-ranging: we discuss everything from what a midlife crisis looks like for women to the importance of knowing when to let go to the primacy of friendship. It’s a really engaging discussion, so please do listen in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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    SlyBK
    14 Oct 2020
    10:13am

    Great episode! I love them all, but this one was meaty in a way that really resonated after it was over. Thank you!

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    Nat
    14 Oct 2020
    11:57am

    Your podcast is something I look forward to and the topics have been relatable right out of the gate. This week’s episode just flew by and did not want the conversation to end. Thank you Kim and Tally for the discourse and engaging us. I want to be your friend!

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    Sarah
    14 Oct 2020
    4:24pm

    Jeez Kim, you’ve encountered some pretty incredible people at every turn

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    JC
    13 Oct 2020
    8:44pm

    Oh Tally, your vulnerability in telling the dancing story–I felt that so much. I love, love to dance, always have. And I’ve mourned that dancing seems to be another thing that’s no longer appropriate/available as I’ve gotten older……As an aside, I sort of question the motivations of that friend of a friend who told you what the young folks had said about you. The reaction of young people is perhaps expected (older people are often mortifying, no matter what they are doing, when you’re young), but I’ve noticed it’s people my own age who seem the most judgmental…..Bottom line, if I ever find myself at a house party and I see you out there on the floor, Tally–I’m joining you. Dance on. xo

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      Sarah
      14 Oct 2020
      4:22pm

      I totally agree – wanted to send Tally a big hug and tell her to dance with abandon at any opportunity!

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      Tally
      14 Oct 2020
      7:10am

      Aw thank-you JC! I have often wondered about the person who told me her daughter was embarrassed. She wasn’t my actual friend and I cannot imagine my friends doing that, thankfully. Loved reading that I’m not alone in loving to dance and missing it— and would love to dance with you!

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    aw
    13 Oct 2020
    8:57pm

    Loved this podcast! I have read both her books and admire her truth telling. I am just catching up on all the podcasts and I really look forward to the time listening with a coffee.

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    Kim
    18 Oct 2020
    6:05pm

    Oh yes. More on boundary drawing please. So many fucks coming from my empty fucks bag on this one.

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    Ann
    13 Oct 2020
    10:26am

    Definitely going to listen to this one today. Her memoir resonates. Loudly. I’ve been feeling all kinds of old emotions since I went through menopause…I don’t even know where to begin. But my brain is interested in things society tells me aren’t for me anymore. I have the same heat and urgency of a very long time ago, after decades of a dull focus somewhere less fun, exciting and, honestly, life-affirming. This has to be a uniquely female experience. We go from the bloom of universally celebrated youth and possibility to undesirable mom to round-middled, hot-flashing invisibility and irrelevance. It’s been a brutal realization for me that has me in re-invention mode, trying to eek out a new existence with an identity I thought was gone.

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    Mimi A.
    13 Oct 2020
    10:31am

    What a fantastic episode! Not to be missed. I listened this morning, in the dark, at 5:30 a.m., but plan to revisit the discussion. In many ways it hit me where I live, but I also found it fascinating to compare my 72-year old concerns with the mid-life reckoning of 40-somethings. To borrow a phrase from the LGBTQ movement, “It gets better.” In some ways, my GOACA friends.

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    cw
    13 Oct 2020
    10:35am

    One of the best yet. Such a smart woman. Thank you and Tally so much for having her.

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    Synnøva O'Gorman
    14 Oct 2020
    8:23am

    This episode was SO GOOD!!! I mean, all your podcasts are good, but this one was just SO GOOD! I immediately caught up with some of Claire’s online writing and have ordered her book. It’s so satisfying when a woman can put so many of your half-formed, incoherent, ragey thoughts into words.

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    DB
    17 Oct 2020
    1:02pm

    The last two podcasts have been favorites. Thank you!

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